Alexandra Hughes 0:12
Everyone and their cat is talking about witches. But what is a witch or medicine woman or priestess? How does one become one? And what is the common thread between women who identify as such magical creatures? Welcome to the witch hunt podcast, where we hold space for healing conversations that collectively explore these questions with the intention of celebrating of illuminating and elevating the rise of feminine energy magic and self sourced power. All in a world that's gone pretty much mental. Every new and full moon host is Alexandra, Requel Hughes, who identifies as all three of these sacred tights, in her own weird way, invites you to brew some tea to light a candle, and to join her in her conversations with witches, medicine, women, priestesses, and other magical creatures from around the world. So come gather to share in the knowledge, experience, magic and sacred stories of those women, who once hunted to be burned at the stake, are now hunted, to be held in the light, so that they so that we can illuminate the way.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:32
But ultimately, what I think the birth chart does is that it as I say, in my readings, it's it's a way of seeing ourselves, I call it the cosmic mirror when we can and have that opportunity to look at ourselves and to have a conversation with the interpreter right and have a conversation with somebody, and to really create that greater sense of self understanding and self awareness. And through that self awareness that understanding our sense of compassion for ourselves increases tremendously.
Alexandra Hughes 2:08
Hello, and welcome to episode 50 of the witch hunt podcast. As soon as you hear astrologer Eve's voice, you'll know you're in the hands of an old soul. And once you hear her story, you will sense her wisdom and her magic. So Eve was born to read the stars in a way that goes beyond one life. She talks about the history, complexity, dynamism and cyclical nature of astrology. And she shares how she weaves in the elements of earth wind, fire and water into her readings, and tells us how our birth charts can tell the story of our souls, karmic journeys over time immemorial. Evelyn also gives us a super rundown of how to read and understand the basics of your very own birth chart. This is an episode you are definitely not going to want to miss. But before we jump in, I wanted to let you know that I am looking for 27 or so women to join what I'm calling the witch hunt collective. So the witch hunt Collective is the coming together of women under every full moon equinox and Solstice. To connect with the woman that you were born to be and the sole mission you're here to realise. We will plug into cosmic lunar and earthly energies to support our ongoing growth and transformation. And when you join, you'll get access to 13 Full Moon live women's circles, including for ceremonial workshops led by yours truly, you can join for as little as $37 a month and I'm capping it at around 27 Click the links in the show notes for all the details. Or if you're ready to reserve your spot or you can email me at Alex at in essence coaching.com with any questions, spaces for this year long experience with me will be available until March 20. I would love I would love to have you join now. Without further ado, let's get back to astrologer Eve and her cosmic mirror magic and joy. Welcome Evelyn to the witch hunt podcast What an honour and delight it is to have you here.
Evelyn Mari Crete 4:24
Thank you. It's such an honour to be here and to speak with you today.
Alexandra Hughes 4:28
To our listeners. Like you know sometimes we meet people and then we realise that we were meant to meet that person and it really felt like that when when you and I met and so it's just lovely to share you and your magic here. Let's begin as I always do with the self introduction. Would you mind introducing yourself to our to our beautiful people?
Evelyn Mari Crete 4:53
I'd love to. So yes, I'm Evelyn I'm also kind of known as astrologer II The secret of an astrologer above all else you know I have done many things I do many things I'm also massage therapist and energy healer and I do all of that work too. But my heart and I feel like a full expression of who I am as as, as an astrologer, I speak to the stars, you know, as soon as they discovered astrology, I say I put like, I've set a glasses on. And I've always seen the world through those blends ever since. So I can't differentiate on most myself, outside of being an astrologer. I'm currently living in Costa Rica, I spend half my year here in Costa Rica in the jungle, on the Caribbean side. And then half of my time is in Canada, where I'm from, although I've lived all throughout Canada, so when people ask me, where are you from? I kind of I panic. Because it's like, it's not a it's not easy. And so I feel like I'm from everywhere I've ever been. And all the places I shall be soon at some point, I hope. Yeah. So that's who I am.
Alexandra Hughes 6:00
What you just said resonates up so deeply. I feel like what did you say? It's such a good quote, I feel like I'm from everywhere I've ever been. And everywhere that I will go, I feel having travelled a lot as well myself, I feel that to you apart. You leave a part of yourself behind everywhere you've been and you take a part of where you've been into
Evelyn Mari Crete 6:23
you. Absolutely. And you learn like wherever you go, you you see a new part of yourself a new part of yourself is reflected. So yeah. And in the people you meet to write, and all the places. Absolutely,
Alexandra Hughes 6:35
and I love, love, love that you spend half the year in Costa Rica and you're in Ottawa. So like, just listeners, when we met, we learned that not only are we like nearly the same age, we were basically grew up in Lima, we grew up in the same city, and now you're living a few blocks really, from where I grew up and share the same favourite restaurants. Restaurant, bookshop? Yeah, and bookstore. Yeah. In Ottawa. And yeah, so it's just synchronous. Is that a word? Yes.
Evelyn Mari Crete 7:20
It is. I find that so. So interestingly, we can you know, that seven degrees of separation, but or that just that there's somehow we sometimes resonate and find our way to people and people who we have a lot of commonality with, right. And so, yeah, where we where we grew up and the land in which we come from? Yeah,
Alexandra Hughes 7:41
yeah, absolutely. It's, it's really, it was such a privilege to meet you. And it was such a gift that you gave. And so we'll get into Evelyn's gift in a bit. But let me just ask you, Evelyn. What What attracted you to the witch hunt podcast? What was it about the word or the words? I'm always curious, you know, like, I basically named a podcast after a genocide. And, you know, women are gravitating to. And of course, it's about a reclamation. Yes. Yeah.
Evelyn Mari Crete 8:18
I think that's it. Yeah. I'm
Alexandra Hughes 8:20
curious, like, how did it land for you? And what made you say, Yeah, this is a podcast that I want to be on?
Evelyn Mari Crete 8:26
Well, I do anytime I can reclaim a word, right? Or reclaim the feminine or reclaim these things that have been twisted, you know, I want to and I want to be part of that movement. It's always been so natural for me to want to do that. But yeah, I think it's the speaking to women who are on the path, in some way, shape, or form, you know, as a witch, or as a priestess, or as a medicine woman. It just completely resonates. I mean, it's my path. I feel like I work with people all the time on that path as well. And my clients and I feel like just the conversation that to have with women seems to be, you know, one in which we can feel like there's this relatability you know, between us, and we need to speak, to be able to see that, to realise that and to see ourselves and others and to celebrate it. So yeah, the podcasts really drew me in.
Alexandra Hughes 9:28
That's great. When did you start to identify with these words like When did or was it always? And which of the words you know you use three which priestess medicine woman is there one that resonates more than the others? Or like an and why?
Evelyn Mari Crete 9:47
Mm. Well, I would say all three do in their own way. Most naturally, I suppose like the most instinctual of the three is the Our most inherent, let's say is the witch, right? I think being a witch is quite instinctual to me and to many, to many women that I would imagine, right? And then, of course, but I do feel like that's the one because there's such a tie to the natural world. And I feel that witches are also conjures in the quantum realms. So I feel like such an association to that. And yet at the same time, I also feel like, I think that the path that I'm on the most is the one is as the medicine woman, I think that's my deepest journey. When one that I've been on for, you know, 30 years or so, and I've collected many medicines, you know, and put them in my medicine bag over the years. And that's where my heart is, I think. And that's what I do. You know, I teach people the medicine that's found in their birth chart and the medicine that's found in their elements in the elements. And every time I was to think of myself as a priestess, I get deeply humbled, you know, I bow down, you know, I think that that's a journey that I'm also on. And but yet, you know, I think I'm not quite there yet. So I still say, three in their own way. And when I, to answer the question about when I feel like I realised that, I think that was an unfolding, you know, I was exposed my mom when he was a herbalist. So I was exposed to herbal medicine, and plants hanging, you know, around the house, and all of that, and in crystals, and I suppose I even had a black cat named crystal. So I should have known. Yeah, and, you know, but I was also brought, like, astrology came to me at a young age as well. And just my my immediate resonance with it was also telltale, in many respects, that this was just like who I was. That's what I that's the language I wanted to speak. That's who I wanted to be. That's what I wanted to think about. And then I started working with rune stones when I was pretty young as well, and divination, and just with prayer, and that type of thing. And that all felt so natural to me. So it was just this unfolding that just felt like that's who I am, I don't, I don't almost know myself any differently. And then, I suppose when I really fully realised like this was my role beyond as I was in my 20s, and I was living in Vancouver, and I was working at a cafes as one does in their 20s. And there was a lot of like, eccentric, it was very eccentric artistic community, you that people that would come into this coffee shop. And it's there where I really realised that my natural expression was always in the more mystical and spiritual realms. And people would come to me and they would talk about astrology, and they would want to talk about their spiritual journey or their dreams, and they would sit at the little cafe bar. And sometimes I would work the late into the evenings and just have these most profound conversations. And people really turned to me for this. And that's when I saw myself through their reflection. But this was my part. This was my part. This was my role and community. So that's when I started to realise No, I'm a witch. So like, I'm, I'm a mistake, right? And that's how it gets played out is through my connection with people. And it was always my personal thing. But it was just I just realised, like, that's what people turn to me for. So yeah. And yeah, and then, and then I got called deeper into astrology. And that was kind of a mystical experience how that happened as well. So I felt like well, I'm guided, you know, this is a calling.
Alexandra Hughes 13:43
And I want to go there. I'm really curious about that mystical experience that took you into this incredible magic that you that you have and that you offer people. But I want to ask you that question. It's stuck with me. It's one of the first things you said just now. And it's that to be a which is instinctual. And one thing that I've realised, and listeners have heard me say it time and time again is that and this was my experience, is that, you know, I started doing witchy thing before I took on the label. That's right. i real i like I remember the moment when I thought oh, this is all fairy which like maybe I'm a witch, you know? And so it wasn't it wasn't like a cognitive decision. It was like a being that then circled back around and I'm just curious if you know when you can you speak more to the instinctual piece and what it how it played out for you. And also like, you were in a situation where, you know, your mom was an herbalist, like I'm I don't know if she would have use that word. But it sounds like a setting where you would have been supported as opposed to many of the women who maybe were raised in, you know, patriarchal churches more different kinds, like if we talk about our common friend Sarah yam tidge. Totally different upbringing. Yeah. Right. And so I'm just curious if that context like how it influenced you, if it influenced you? Or if it was just a holding supportive holding space? I don't know. I'm kind of curious.
Evelyn Mari Crete 15:33
Well, well, I know my birth chart. so my birth chart does scream, like, what the role that I am playing, right, it's it screams the mystic, right. So yeah, it's just it is in me, it's natural, for sure. But absolutely, having my mom be very open to it. My mom really tried to protect me from religion, she was born and raised Roman Catholic and suffered, you know, because of that, sadly. So she really raised me, you know, we're gonna take you out of that realm, and no dogma for you, you know, and she was very spiritual and taught me that, that there's light and there's dark and, and a light will always win, you know, but she just really gave me the space to be who I am. And so that really just that leaves doors open, when you want to just follow yourself and become what you are and follow those instincts. So yeah, I think that was very blessed by that. And the irony is, of course, as it is, oftentimes, I was like, I want to go to church, you know, I wanted to be baptised. And all of that, I think, is because I was like yearning for some sort of ritual. I think that's what it was, and some sort of belonging and, and just to be in any sacred environment that I could be about, you know, my to think that that's, you know, the best place for that, not that I really thought that was the only place but I thought that that was where I would get that. But I am so, so happy with how I was raised. And as for the instinctual piece, like you just said, I think we start doing these things. We start really, I think, part of being a witches, where it was like trying to breathe, lifeforce into intention, right into manifestation, we're always like trying to weave together things of working in the matrix, if you will. So I think that's just so natural to like, put a crystal and charge it and say, you know, this is my intention with this, or to lay things out in ways where we're trying to attract energy or trying to clear energy and all of that and like, and we're out in the natural world, you know, wanting to commune with the trees and, and let the the river like, clear away our pain or whatever. I think that's all, that's all so instinctual on that that's part of the path can be identified as a rich for sure.
Alexandra Hughes 17:58
Yeah, yeah. It makes like the way you described, it just now reminds me of something that I also say all the time. And is that we just our nature, right? Like, well, that's it. Yeah, no, of course, we would invite the stream to cleanse and you know, the trees as our sisters like we are, and it is only the tiny like, in relative terms, that tiny little speck of time that the patriarchy and churchianity has, has existed that's kind of brainwashed us to believe that we're not that we're separate, or superior to. One can't take away the instinct. And I think like it's coming to the surface now in a collective?
Evelyn Mari Crete 18:44
I think certain. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, I think it's always been there. But I think there's more language for it. And there's just more work, you know, I think, well, you know, I think more people are able to express themselves now, right? In this weird irony, there's way more freedom now. Yes. To share the word. Yeah. And again, to see ourselves reflected in in one another and realise, yeah, you're part of something and this is it, I relate to that. And, and then that just encourages us to be, you know, more open and more exploratory and we feel safer, you know, so
Alexandra Hughes 19:22
I think the safety piece is really important to remember that, you know, it's only been a couple decades that women were allowed credit cards, or, you know, domestic domestic rape was criminalised, right like its own. We were we weren't allowed to own property like there's so many things that are fairly recent, but that have that but we've really rolled with it like we've like in a short amount of time. We've like said are we are shutting it It will take a long time. And you and I are probably at the forefront of that in relative terms, but
Evelyn Mari Crete 20:05
okay. And I think that everything is accelerating. A lot of people are saying that and I think that's part of it. Yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 20:10
And I feel like the Great Mother is speaking to us in very explicit ways. And it's time. You know, we she needs her daughters to stand as allies now. Yeah, so I want it. So can you please share with us the mystic experience that took you into astrology? And I also like, and I'm imagining that you will do this anyway. But can you weave in? How your chart supported you? into your chart?
Evelyn Mari Crete 20:46
Yeah, again, yeah, it's a chicken or egg, like it's a chart thing. And it's supported or, you know, did I learn that from the chart, but Well, let's say I'll talk first about the experience. So after this time, actually, in my 20s, when I was on the west coast of Canada, I then moved all the way to the East Coast, right to Halifax, in the Maritimes. And it was there were one day I was at a health food store. And it was the old olden days where, you know, there was a little on a bulletin board, there was a thing put up with a teacher, astrologer saying, you know, to learn astrology, she was offering courses and you take those little chips, right with a phone number with you. And so I had that, and you know, kind of squirrel that away and I didn't really, you know, approach her or think too much about it. I just knew that I had it there. And I was sort of, you know, getting grounded, because it was relatively new to that area. And then one night, I had this dream. And I had this dream where you know how dreams work? Right? They they're symbolic, and they have their way of kind of speaking to and in ways that are not always, you know, linear or what have you. But woman that might actually have a friend of my mom's who was a witch, she was a self proclaimed witch. And that's where everyone knew that was her identity. She comes to me in the dream, he was Patricia. And she basically came over to me and said, it is time. And so I woke up and I was thinking it is time was very cryptic. Oh, it's a time for. And I had no thought about and thought about it. And then that day, I came across the little chit with the phone number. And I thought, oh, I should maybe it's time for this. And then I realised that the teacher, her name was Patricia. And so I thought, oh, there's a direct correlation right between
Alexandra Hughes 22:45
you. You mean the woman on the poster? There's an allergy teacher. Her name was Patricia. Yes. And the woman and your mother's friend self proclaimed witch who came to you in the dream. Her name was
Evelyn Mari Crete 22:59
butrans. Patricia. Yeah. So Oh, okay. Interest, the tie. Yeah, it was very interesting, because I knew Oh, there's something to this. Because I was, of course, always, I've always been, you know, I wish I have, like, you know, dreams all the time that were juicy and full of depth and you know, things to explore. But you know, when those moments happen, I really am like, I gravitate to that. And so I did, I called her and then we had a meeting. And it was this spring time. And I was speaking to her and I was so excited. I was like, I feel so ready to study with this one. Because I had been, since I was 15. Like reading everything I could about astrology, knowing everyone's sign, you know, knowing everyone's element, and then learning the moon sign. I was completely obsessed and self taught. And it was all that I, you know, I said is all I ever really thought about? So to really, to learn with someone, you know, I can't believe I haven't done this yet. I think it was 24 at the time. So So as I'm speaking to her, I'm so excited. And she said, This is great. You know, I hold little classes, usually there's six people or eight, you know, but unfortunately, it's the springtime. So I'm going to be going back to my land because she had this was when she was in Halifax. She had lived kind of in the middle of nowhere. And she was you know, very, she was a witch for sure. I mean, she grew all her plants, and she had all her medicines and she went off grid for half of the year right the summer months. So she said I don't teach right now. And so I was crestfallen, of course having to wait until probably the fall another five, six months. And she said well just give me a moment. And she pulled out what seemed like a very mystical magical book that it's called an ephemeris. And in the ephemeris it's got all the all the planetary you know, where the planets are at all given times and, and she started counting and counting and counting and she was focusing and then she this happened so She looked up at me after quite a bit. She says, oh, it's time. And it came right back around. And I was like, Well, you know, I couldn't believe it. And she says, Come with me, then you can come and you know, take the bus and, and I'll find one other student, and we'll just work on my property. And I'll teach you and come with the weekends. And and I'll teach you because it was time for me. And what I now know what happened was my progressed son had moved into Aquarius, right. And Aquarius has a strong association with astrology. Right? And so she just knew it was time for me. So yeah, that was it. And that's how I really began and, and this was so long ago, that this is before computers were in the house. So I learned how to do everything mathematically the tables and you know, and drew up the chart, no computers all by hand and everything like that. So I had such an authentic learning experience from this amazing woman.
Alexandra Hughes 26:01
That's incredible. Yeah.
Evelyn Mari Crete 26:02
Yeah, it was. Yeah. It was it really. I mean, it was it is definitely a calling for me. And, you know, it's I think magic is everywhere and always unfolding. But we really have to be paying attention, right? We have to be open to it. We have to follow it. And I really, yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 26:19
So what like, like, let's go, let's go back from the this magical, like, it's time moment. And because you said you'd been into it like forever? How did it? Okay, let me turn it into a generic question. How did you know what attracted you to it? What made it fascinating for you? As technology even met her? Yeah,
Evelyn Mari Crete 26:46
we are? Well, that's a good question. Other than that, it always felt like it made sense. And maybe it brought order to chaos. It was I was like, I can understand things better, and like organise things by understanding it. And not that I think, you know, this is a bunch of boxes, because it's so it's beyond that, right? You know, there's not the 12 signs, and they're all everything's cookie cutter. But it still brought some sort of symbolic meaning to everything. And it was and it's so ancient that it it really felt like there's something like there's some, there's some organising principle here that really, that works. And it gives us a greater sense of ourselves. So we can understand other people more. I think that's part of it. What really turned me on to it or where I got turned on to it was my mum, I can. She had brought home a book was I interestingly, this is when I lived in Nova Scotia when I was a teenager, and she missed a ferry. And so she bought a book in a bookstore at Linda Goodman Sun science, and she had read her sign, and she came home later that evening, and said, You have to read this, this is unbelievable. And I read it, and I was like, that is when the glasses went on. I was like, Oh, my goodness, there's my mom, right there in the written word, to the tee. And the Christians are reading all of it. And it just, it felt like I don't know, I it's almost like I don't have words for it just felt like it just made sense. The lights went on. And it felt so profound, and clarifying and all of that. And then of course, now I know that I know, the full chart. And I will work with people and bring their chart to them and how it touches them and how it makes people feel sometimes not crazy, or not this or not that right. And to feel like yes, there's an almost an explanation. And they're, and this is natural, you know, this is how I'm wired. This is the imprint, you know, for me, and this is my path. And there can be a lot of acceptance of self.
Alexandra Hughes 28:54
Yes, yes. Yes. As someone called for meaningful Yeah, it as someone who's been on the other end of your reading and other readings, it's something that it's affirming. Yes, that's it. And it and it does, it helps make sense of you and your life. And in so doing invites acceptance and peace in a sense of inner peace.
Evelyn Mari Crete 29:20
Yeah. The most important thing to me. Yeah, yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 29:22
And I want to speak to the thing about boxes that you said, you know, like, I feel as though sometimes it's been presented and criticised as well as like, you know, well, if you're a Scorpio, you're like this. And if you're an Aries, and you're like this and that, but the truth is, is that we're talking about quite a complex and you can speak more to this but dynamic interval interrelated systems. So it's not about if you're a Scorpio, you're like this. And if you're an Aries, you're like this because there's so many other factors around like Well, what's influencing your Scorpio? Or what? What other? Where are the other? You know, like there's it's very dynamic. Totally. Yeah. You
Evelyn Mari Crete 30:09
know, just like you. That's it. Yeah. Right.
Alexandra Hughes 30:13
So it's like this mirror and I, I also wanted to just pick up on the word ancient. I know we talked a little bit about this before I hit the record button, but let's just talk about how ancient astrology actually is. And, you know, Can Can you speak at all to like, it's used because so I have this thing in my family, which so I'm in I'm in my, like, my husband is an economist, all about science. Not none of this, like, you know, like spiritual business, like, what is that? You know, but my theory is that, don't worry, honey, the science is catching up to me. The science is catching up. And, you know, I've heard this to be true even of astrology, like they're saying that actually, from a quantum perspective, and yeah, me if I get this wrong, but like the placement of the celestial bodies, energetically influences from a pontic perspective, your energetics when you're born, or something like that. So there's actually some kind of science that can explain it. Not that the ancients would ever have even cared to explain it. Fully. The modern human likes to know that kind of stuff, but like, what kind of a role did astrology used to play? And how old is it really?
Evelyn Mari Crete 31:48
Well, I don't know how old except that it is ancient. And the sense of that was, you know, people were following the stars and watching the cycles, and using that, for many reasons for mapping and for starting to notice, you know, again, the cycles of different energy. And then a more modern time, certainly, it's been used, it's been woven into all sorts of different cultures. Like the ancient Greeks were really interest ology. And Hellenistic astrology is making a comeback in many ways. And there's a lot of old texts, a lot of it was more mundane astrology, meaning seeing what's happening out there with the planets and how that's affecting society, and how that's affecting the rulers and the kings and the queens and all of that. So it's like the general experience of the collective and, and the sign of the times, etc. And then More more recently, it's become humanistic astrology, where it's then brought to the person and the individual. So that's relatively new, but it's still like hundreds of years, right, hundreds and hundreds of years. 1000s of years, really, but it goes way beyond that. And yes, as I just want to say, thank goodness for quantum physics for like helping a science catch up to many things that we speak of. I feel like there was one other thing in that that you were bringing up.
Alexandra Hughes 33:11
What came to me just as you were talking, I don't know if you've seen that film, Elizabeth, about Elizabeth. No. At the end of it, she consults or through, there's an astrologer who's very important. Yeah. And, you know, she consults the astrologer to make a military decision. And I thought, I thought that was so interesting.
Evelyn Mari Crete 33:34
Yeah, and, and I'm not surprised at all. I mean, it is the old I've heard it referred to as the oldest science, you know, astrology. And it's only been three or 400 years where it divided you know, astrology and astronomy separated, right? And now it's astronomy and astrology, but it used to be united. And it was it spoke to the same principle of as above, so below.
Alexandra Hughes 33:58
Yes, of course, as above, so below. And the other thing that kind of recently landed for me about astrology. Is it cyclical?
Evelyn Mari Crete 34:08
No, yeah, absolutely. All about
Alexandra Hughes 34:10
like planetary or celestial body cycles, you know, and I'm
Evelyn Mari Crete 34:16
all it's all cycles, right, like, so.
Alexandra Hughes 34:21
Right? So that's kind of an interesting way to look at it as well.
Evelyn Mari Crete 34:27
Absolutely. And when I do forecasting with people, I always say, what cycle are you in? You know, what part of the cycle are you in? Because we're always in the cycle. We're always in many ways, too. And we one of the things I like speaking about the most is the moon phase, what moon phase were born under what that says, but also the moon phase that we're in right now, because there's a way of tracking how we're always we're always in some sort of flow of the moon phase. It's always ever folding like we so we start off we can get launched, you know, when we're birth. So you know, take our first break that were launched into we start on a certain moon phase. And then we continue. It's called progressions but we continuously open and blossom, but the spiral of different moon phases. So we go through this 29 year cycle of what moon phase are we in at any given time. So there's times when we're waxing and regrowing, and we're drawing in, and we're reaching out. And we're, it's, it's kind of ambitious, right, and creative, and active. And then there's the times when we're our cycle where we're waiting, where we're releasing, and we're calming down, and we're reflecting, and we're returning to source. So there's just that's another just one of the many cycles that we're always always in, you're talking
Alexandra Hughes 35:52
about goes and how I like, I'm kind of curious to know a little bit more about that. And so how so because so when I work with the moon, I work kind of in the most obvious way. Like, you know that right now, where the moon is waning right now, right? We're gonna step into the dark moon fairly soon. And so I, I seek to honour that in this role, but it's completely misaligned with any of it. But I seek to honour that and have my rituals and try to align my activities accordingly. But are you? Is that what you're talking about? Are you talking about that 28 ish day moon cycle? Are you talking about because you were talking about return to a longer moon cycle? Yes.
Evelyn Mari Crete 36:35
So of course, there's that right. There is the honouring, and that's kind of a mundane astrology as well, right? Where it's like, that's what's happening for all of us. We're all going through the waxing and the waning and we and very much living, you know, alongside that cycle, for sure. Then we get back into the individuals expression and the and the just the flow of one's life, as you know that there is a season for everything right, as well, and our own journeys, regardless of the season that everyone's experiencing. So what I'm talking about is something called progressions. Now, progressions are very difficult to describe, because they're really using time symbolically. As opposed to what astrologers also use transits. Right, we know of transits. And that's basically like weather system. So how the current planets are affecting our imprinted place, you know, because we have that imprint in our natal chart of who we are. And so let's say Pluto, there is affecting our personal moon. And then we have like an experience because of that there's something gets ignited or, or lit up by that that energy. But progressions are something different progressions are, again, symbolic, and so as symbolic use of time. And there's actually, there's references in the Bible about this, about time being symbolic, and how there's a year for the day. And this is these are, I don't know much more about that. But I do know that it's been referred to him that way. But essentially, we see ourselves as a seed, and the birth chart is like a seed when we were born, and it is going to open, right, it's going to open and blossom. And part of that opening and blossoming is the unfolding of our nature. And the chart keeps moving energetically. And that's what I'm talking about is that the progressed Moon and the progress I'm keep moving. And they keep creating different different chapters as well. So the progress moon phase that we are in and we give them time tells us are we in the new moon phase, and we're in our personal life, we're really knowing that we're starting a new chapter, we're just sensing there's something new ahead of us, but we can't really see yet because we're still in our personal dark at the moment. So we have to plant seeds at that time, we have to be very intentional, we have to know what it is we want things to feel like because of 14 years will be in our personal full moon phase. And that full moon phases when there's a lot of ripening, and it gets seen more and things usually reach a peak, right. And then we continue to go through the waning cycle. And then we have the balsamic phase. And that's the phase right before the new moon right. And that's a phase and that I see this time and time again with people. That's a phase in people's lives where they personally again, this is not a collective experience. It is but not unfolding at the same time. That's when people start to realise they start to surrender a lot and chapters, you know, start to end and close. relationships start to to end you know, the ones that that no longer serve the journey and we start letting go A lot of our ego identities and all of that, and we go into that place of surrender, and then so that we can clear out what we don't need. So that we started that new cycle, that new personal new moon cycle ready without all the added stuff that we we had amassed during the last cycle. So that's the progressed moon cycle. It's, it's a little complex to understand, like how that fits into all the other cycles. But that's the like, Oh, I remember that was the complexity of the nature of the individual. Right? So we, we have like our Sun sign you're asking about like Scorpios are like this and you know, these signs are like that, and how that is like kind of boxes. But there are so many different parts of ourselves and we know that more and more we understand psychology there's a part you know, the different parts theory and all that. So there's the sandwiches are plays into our ego and a very central part of our nature. Then there's the moon, which is our emotional core self, our instinctual self, and, and and on and on. And then there's the Venus or Venus tells us so much about what it is that we value and, and how we show up in relationship and what we need from relationships. And and then there is our mercury, which speaks to our mind and what we're thinking about and our communication style. So there's all those different parts of ourselves. So when someone says just a Scorpio, yes, there's going to be an archetypal thing that's shared, right? It's no, no doubt, it's very, it's very evident. It's on awesomely evident, but we're so complex, we're so layered. And then evolutionary astrology, which is the style and I practice, there's different schools of every one of the schools that I did study of the Jeffrey Wolfe green. And also this is Dean Bridger. He's a humanistic astrologer with they speak to that. Not only do we have all these aspects to the birth chart, we're also there's we all come in at an in another are various levels of soul consciousness, are we part of the collective consciousness? Are we in individuated consciousness, are we coming from the spiritual consciousness, so even twins can be born and they can have pretty much identical charts. But if one of the twins their soul comes in, and they're more in the consensus, reality consciousness, they're going to express their chart in a certain way. And if some people are born, or the other twin, let's say is born in a spiritual consciousness level, they're going to express the same signs in a different ways. So there is also that other nuanced aspect, and that you can't tell that by the chart, just looking at the chart, you're gonna You can tell that by the soul of the person, right, and how they express it, some people are moving away from source and God, and some people are returning to source and God, right. And that's also you know, and you know, moving away, but always will return but you know, there's this that ebb and that flow, right, the waxing and waning. So that adds another layer to how a Scorpio could be expressed differently. So there's a lot, there's a lot that's why, you know, it's, that's why what drew me into astrology, and one of the things that I didn't mention was when I spoke with the woman, Patricia, and she said to me, Well, you know, you've never, you can never stop learning, you know, if you study astrology, and I was like, bingo, that spoke to me because I have a stellium in Sagittarius the seeker really looking for always looking for answers in the meeting. And then my moon is in the ninth house, which is again, the house of the seeker and looking for, you know, always looking for answers and meaning and symbolism and all of that. So, the eternal student, yeah, I'm always learning.
Alexandra Hughes 43:56
I have a question about the soul piece. So if let's imagine you had two twins who wanted readings is that an intuitive kind of receiving of energy that will help you to ascertain that you know that karmic or so tell me if I'm saying it right energy or expression of the chart? Is that kind of because if you can't read it on the paper, that it needs to be identified in a different way and so I'm curious like that means there's a merging of you and you're like what's on paper and then you holding the space and taking in the energy of the other person? Is that what happens? Is that how it works?
Evelyn Mari Crete 44:45
Yeah, absolutely. There's so much to be said about the the magic of the moment when you're doing your reading to there's there's a lot of astrologers that note what's happening energetically in the moment and even astral logically in the moment when you do a reading with someone also speaks to their soul where they are in their soul journey and what is meant to be so there's so everything so holographic, right? So yes, when I do, you know, when you do do a reading, there is a meeting, there's a meeting of the source and there is a way of it. You know, I think something else happens when, when, when someone's in a consult with their chart. And I think what needs to come out and come forth does and it often stays in the realm of wherever the soul is, wherever the soul is, at in their consciousness. It's nothing that I determined, okay, I don't take a note, I think it's this right I it just it becomes evident somehow what people will relate to and how they express it, because I always say that there is a spectrum in which we can express any of our science. And in that spectrum, we can see that are they operating from not only the the more positive, constructive aspects and or versus the more destructive or challenging expressions, but also in what people are doing with it, right? How people are working with it, and and with how they're playing that out in their life. Yeah, but let's just say most people who see an astrologer are not really usually consensus reality,
Alexandra Hughes 46:23
what's consensus reality, consensus
Evelyn Mari Crete 46:27
reality, and I don't ever want this to ever sound judgmental, but it is people who are sort of seeing things as they are, they don't see them as much. Basically, perhaps, yeah, very, very science oriented or very simplistic in the sense of, you know, we're here, we're here to work, we're here to enjoy our life to it, you know, but it's, there's, there's no other meaning, right? There's very little meaning. So it's that sort of the sheep mentality, that type of thing, because it's the consensus, we're just like, what people are doing, then there's the individuated people, right? And they're the ones are like the rebels, right? They're like, wait a second, you know, they're gonna think for myself, you know, be free thinkers. And there's, you know, there's different levels within each of the three as well. But that's more of that. And then of course, the spiritual are people who are really trying to return to source feel that natural calls were returned to nature to return to source to work in the light. And to in some ways, the material world matters, of course, because they, you know, it's important to be embodied, but at the same time, it's not what's leading, you know, leaving their lifetime.
Alexandra Hughes 47:33
So, no, of course, I'm going to ask you, because you did my reading. What am I?
Evelyn Mari Crete 47:39
Oh, well, I think you're probably from what I can sense I mean, just it's sometimes it's a little bit of a giveaway when someone's a Pisces right that there's a leaning towards
Alexandra Hughes 47:53
the end they have a podcast called which
Evelyn Mari Crete 47:54
exactly, I think there's a few things that kind of give it away. So you probably are like, you know, coming out of that individuated and then this spiritual right and then that you know, because we sometimes will transmit to transverse or transverse we we move from right in one lifetime. We don't always catapult from from the consensus to the spiritual but usually there's a standard like the in like, part of that debate. individuating process, right. Wait a second. I'm not drinking this Kool Aid. Right. I'm I'm seeing things and then then there's a call towards the spirit. Yeah, I handle this from my perspective.
Alexandra Hughes 48:33
Yeah. Yes. Yes. Like, disclaimer, this
Evelyn Mari Crete 48:36
is all this is all. Yeah,
Alexandra Hughes 48:38
I actually have a hard time with the consensus piece. Sometimes. I I wish I wasn't even in this. Part of the consensus. I like to be kind of floating around in lala land dreaming. Yeah, I'm glad to hear that that's what your interpretation was. I want to ask you something about how do you feel like I'm just thinking of our listeners, like what makes astrology so powerful for someone who would listen to this podcast someone who's either which curious or which await awakening into their, into their craft or or like a practising, you know, practising witch or priestess? Like, what is it? How can it support as and why is it special for us?
Evelyn Mari Crete 49:32
Well, it I think it's special in the way of self exploration, right? I think this runs across the board but to bring it really specifically to people who are identifying or in the Explore exploration or practising is that you're already in the mystical realms, right? You're already working within that and and you You know yourself through them. But then when you sit with your birth chart and you have it reflected to you, it, it really deepens that experience and really makes you feel so connected to something greater. But ultimately, what I think the birth chart does is that it as I say, in my readings, it's it's a way of seeing ourselves, I call it the cosmic mirror, when we can, and have that opportunity to look at ourselves and to have a conversation with the interpreter, right and have a conversation with somebody. And to really create that greater sense of self understanding and self awareness. And through that self awareness, that understanding our sense of compassion for ourselves increases tremendously. So we think, Well, of course, now, of course, that's how I'm going to be reacting to this. Or, of course, that's what's going to be important to me. And then we, and then we have a deeper sense of self love, and acceptance. And I think that that serves us more than almost more than anything, right as when we can be in that place, then we can be fully aligned with ourselves. But it takes a lot of awareness to do that, you know, it takes a lot of awareness, self awareness, and a chart just makes it easier. Same thing with the birth chart. So I think somebody who was on let's say, a non traditional path, or that's questionable, actually, but is somebody who's, who's on that path. It's, it's, it's even more interesting and mystical, because you're, you're wired to want to see things in that way. And astrology delivers.
Alexandra Hughes 51:42
Delivers. For me, it was so much about that. And it was also about actually become becoming clearer about my purpose. And that was, and I think that came out of the nodes.
Evelyn Mari Crete 51:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that is the primary Yeah, that's a primary angle we take as evolutionary astrologers. other than it being a spiritual expression, like using a child as a spiritual evolving expression, we really look at the nodes to understand the south node to understand our karma. And what we come in with, you know, you were born, there's a story behind our eyes right already. And that story is, is steeped in, it's a mystery as to where it comes from. But that story is ultimately something that has their what they would say, you know, like unresolved karmic energy, and and naturalness and a skill and a talent around this, because we have a fair amount of soul experience, whether it's come through past lives, or through the ancestral line, or somehow our mysterious answers through our soul. But when we look at the North Node, and we see our evolutionary path forward, we understand part of our souls purpose is to grow and to stretch, right, and to really evolve and move the energy, not leaving the south node, knowing that that's a really inherent part of us, not rejecting it, but knowing that we don't have to keep over identifying with it, and staying with it, we want to grow and we want to stretch. So the nodes are incredibly deep, and incredibly profound, when we really learn to understand what that is for us. And what that journey indicates. And, and it's a sketch, we certainly colour it in, but it's a sketch and then we understand better. Yeah, that's the direction that's the direction for growth for me. And that's where I feel fulfilled. You know, that's why I feel very, very fulfilled. And that's so important. Yes. Yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 53:48
And that's why, like, for me, it was and that's why this feels more of a struggle to go like in this direction, generally, it's where I'm drawn to it, but it also feels a bit like a struggle like so that kind of journey from south to north. But without abandoning south, it just resonates so. So let me like, again, if someone were to understand the very basics in a way that supported them, what would be most important for them to understand about their chart? Like, like, like, I think, you know, if I didn't know anything about astrology, I personally I would, now that I know a little bit about it, I would want to know the notes. piece, I would want to know what Sun meant, what Moon meant, and then maybe Mars and Venus. And I'm sure there's more. That's really super important. But like, I just for our listeners to kind of walk away and say, Oh, this might mean this And this might mean that, like, if they were to look like obviously, you know, you have to get a reading with Evelyn in order to get the whole scoop in the whole story. And I have to just say I had one and and it was amazing. But like, what do you think some of the kind of the top three things people need to know about your birth chart that will help them to understand themselves? And I know it's so like, augmenting in turning it into like,
Evelyn Mari Crete 55:42
oh, no, but it's, it makes sense. And actually, we kind of do it ourselves. We say the top three things you want to know is the Sun Moon rising? Right? Okay. So that's very standard. Do you want to know the sun but to understand like, What do you mean Sun Moon rising? What I want to know those three are what do they represent? Remember, we're saying there's different parts of ourselves. So as I said earlier, the sun is our, our, you know, I always frame it in the sense of understanding that our Sun is something we're developing more into. So we really want to learn how to actively dynamically work with our son, right? So to understand our son, but not as a done deal, but more as an okay, so if I'm a Pisces, like, how do I Pisces all the time, like, how do I bring that online, right. And then when we want to understand the moon, I think it's so important because then, you know, this is something that I really am passionate about. But the moon tells us a lot about our love language, through the lens of astrology. So we understand our moon, we understand what our core emotional needs are, as well as how we express our core emotional needs, but what they are and how to meet someone there. And one of the other things that I love doing almost like what I love doing, not more than anything, but I really love doing children's chart readings. Because when a parent understands their child's reading their child, they they're actually parents are raising their mood, their child's moon sign even a little bit more than the sun. So it's really interesting to know the moon sign, right? So as a takeaway, if people want to go and figure out their moon sign, they'll understand their core emotional needs, or their personal love language. And if they have a child, they'll know. Okay, so that's like, I don't really think about that sign when I'm raising my child. And then the rising sign is really interesting as well, because it's our social mask. That's how we appear to the world. This is the energy we give off, and we want to work with that rising sign, you know, it's the greatest, we know, it's our kind of our calling card. So we want to know, like, how do I use my calling card in the most effective way? So that's helpful. But the nodes Yeah, that's really powerful, really powerful, it is easier to have somebody like astrologer to synthesise all that energy. But to understand, okay, it's the South Node north node, you know, it's very interesting thing to research and to really contemplate, right, because it's deep, it runs very deep that theme. It's not like a It's not like this surface part of ourselves. It's like a very deep, it's a soul. It's very much tied in with the soul. And the souls memory. Yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 58:12
You know, as someone who believes in past lives and reincarnation, and like the wisdom of the soul, and that our intuition is that bridge to the soul, you know, the the notes pieces feels really important to me, but I love that I love I love the practical, the practicality of understanding your moon sign as as, as a parent, you know, and understanding your child's moon sign. I think that that and of course the moon is, Is it cancer world rules? Cancer, right? Yes. So and cancer is all about maternal. That's right. And caring for a nourishing, go back totally and completely makes sense. Can you speak also, what I really loved about our reading was how you drew in the elements, which was actually I've actually never had a reading where the elements were so explicitly drawn in and I feel like that is, you know, that's also really significant for an individual.
Evelyn Mari Crete 59:13
Oh, totally. Absolutely. And I speak so much because I really I see that Britain as medicine, right? Really stepping into the trend is like getting great dose of medicine, but also understanding as medicine within the birth chart, we can understand how to use the signs the different parts of ourselves as medicine or how to find ourselves more in the middle walk the middle path through through the medicine of the different signs and the different expressions. But when we're talking about the elements of course we have these were dominant usually what I mean our Sun sign is I always consider our dominant element you know, for you being a Pisces is water is your dominant element. And there's so much to say there so that your gift right you naturally tend to be reflective and to have it Have and empathic and sensitive and all of that. So speaking to our primary element can really there could just it. It's just so vivid, the experiences of everyone we know it right. And then we can work with the fact that these are your skills. And we know that that's, you know, your way of, you know, experiencing life. So we'll be a little bit more subjective, and you will be more sensitive and emotional. And it just creates more space, knowing that I'm my water sign. And then there's really a secondary element, right, there's usually that other element that walks alongside, right, and that that is another expression of ourselves. So that's very helpful, then as well to really just step into the power of that element. But what I find, sometimes the most intriguing and using the elements as medicine is to look the element that we're lowest in because what we're lowest in tells us what we're very naturally and instinctively looking for. And we look for it externally and the people. So we might be if we're really low in fire, we look for the fire people, you know, people who bring enthusiasm and schwa de vivre, who bring like that natural resiliency and war, generosity, because, you know, it's not that it's completely devoid in the self. But it's, it's, it's not as easy to access. So you need that medicine and the people, but also the medicine and the actual element. So looking for like being by the fire, right, being, you know, singing to the sun, you know, connecting with the element of fire in that way of knowing that there's medicine, and the element that we're low in can really help come, you know, lack of better word complete us. And it's a way of a really useful way of working. We're working with kind of our general makeup.
Alexandra Hughes 1:01:50
Yeah, it's like it's like seeking an intrinsic balance.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:01:55
That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And that's, that's what's we're doing, I believe very much in polarity, polarity, therapy, polarity, everything. So trying to bring everything into this balance walk in the middle road, right. So yeah, and I use the chart that way. Yeah,
Alexandra Hughes 1:02:13
I love the way you use the chart. And just for people who aren't familiar, like the different astrological signs are each associated with a particular element. Yeah, four elements. You and I will know this, but maybe for curious people like which are the four elements really, that everything is made up of which is Wind Fire, I'm trying to do them in order of the astrology. Well, if you know, so that's right. Yeah,
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:02:45
we started with Aries. Yeah, Aries the cycle, right. So that's fine. And that's the Aries, the Leos and the Sagittarians. And then there's the earth. That's the Taurus, the Burgos and the Capricorns. And then there's the ANR. And that's the Geminis, the Libras and the Aquarians. And then we've got the water and that's the concern, Aryans, the scorpions and the Pisces. Yes.
Alexandra Hughes 1:03:14
And as you follow like the wheel, the astrological wheel, it becomes so fascinating also in terms of journeying, like how how, you know, really in the beginning, the early signs are about individual and then the and then my understanding is then it's about like, relationships with closer in, and then as you move towards Aquarius and Pisces, which are at the it's about, like, the broader collective. So it's really, like it's actually quite fascinating. The it's incredibly complex.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:03:52
Oh, it's so I always say I'm glad I learned in my 20s my brain was sharpen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And there's so many different layers because that's I love that that part of that cycle, you know, the cycle of the Yeah, the first several signs is, you know, the individuated experience and the I Am and then there's the relational and there's the transpersonal the collective and then there's also when we look at the they're called modalities, but you know, the signs that initiate the season like start the season like the Aries, you know, the equinox, the spring equinox, that's when Aries begins, right? And summer begins the summer, the cancer season, the summer solstice. This is according to the northern hemisphere, of course. And then the fall is like initiates the equinox of Libra and Capricorn, fifth solstice, the winter solstice. And all of those four signs are what's called the cardinal signs and the cardinal people are the initiators, those the people are more inclined to want to begin and to start, and that's what the season feels like. Right? It's breaking through into a new season. It's the you know, here we are, so It's a new part of the cycle. And then the signs that are fixed or they they hold the season and always feels like that season with them. So you know moving you know Taurus, you know during the spring it's like spring when it's Taurus time, right the flowers and the beautiful days and the bees and the birds and everything like that's all tourists time they hold it down, it's fixed and always feels like spring and it's you can just like sink into that season. And of course the Leos you can sink into the summer and late July and August and and then the Scorpio is like you can sink into the dark of the thought of fall, right and the autumn of the dying and the letting go of Scorpio season and then Aquarius, you could just sink into that cool season, the cold of the winter. And then there's the mutable people. And that's the sign that signs that kind of bridge the two seasons because you're not quite sure. So mutable people are very adaptable, and they're you know, flowing and that type of thing, because they're moving between the seasons. So again, if we're wanting to follow the cycle here, we understand that Gemini season, which is late May and most of June isn't spring, summer, right? And that's to me, it's the duality of it all. And then the the duality of Virgo the end of the end of August and most of September, Is it summer, who is it now fall, right. And the flexibility in Virgo was very mutable, even though it's an earth sign it beautiful, it's beautiful, because it likes to whatever is most efficient, I will adjust to whatever is most efficient, right? So they're mutable as well. And then Sagittarius, which is the season of moving between fall and winter. So as we all know, in the northern hemisphere, late November, and most of December, you know, is it winter? Or is it fall, right? It's not quite winter yet, but it's certainly feels like it. But then there's all those days where it still feels like it's fall. There's no snow. So anyways, that's another way of understanding it. So there's so many rich ways. And then I can go into more, of course, but there's other ways of understanding the individual's process, like the Aries is the newborn, and Pisces all the way to the old soul.
Alexandra Hughes 1:07:15
Right, right. Yes, I've heard that as well, that I've heard that as well. Like, from an evolutionary perspective. How many times round? You've been older schools tend to be kind of the end of the
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:07:28
the candy. Yeah, for sure.
Alexandra Hughes 1:07:30
I mean, I don't I don't know if that's true. I've even heard that Jesus was a Pisces, which is interesting, because I've heard that to move his birthday so that it aligns. Well, exactly, yeah. Yeah. You know, I just feel like we could talk about this, like, forever, because there's so many intricacies intricacies and, and, and this is what makes it such a powerful modality. Right. And because in the chart, those intricacies come forth, and I love Did you say cosmic mirror was the Cossack there? That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what your birth chart is. So I want to know, you know, so I know you do one off readings. But before we got on, you were talking about something a little bit different. And I want to, I would love for you to share what that is because I feel like it could be so supportive for people who are beginning to play with it. Because you know, when you know your chart, it's just like, what I was talking about with the moon cycle, right? Like, once you understand a little bit more of the energies, you can play with them, you can dance with them, and you can and you and it helps to optimise your life really like oh, now it's time to shed this. And in doing that I'm creating space for this. And oh, Venus is here. And so maybe that explains why I'm not making any money right now. Because Saturn's right next to it. So how do I work with soldered right, like what we talked about last week? So can Yeah, I can't remember what my question was. Oh, yeah. Right. So can you speak a little bit to like, this new thing that we were talking about, which I just think is so juicy and how you see it, helping you know your clients not only to just understand, like, what they were bought their cosmic mirror, but also how to dance with
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:09:43
it. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, it's very standard. What people you know, they walk with an astrologer right. Once you usually find an astrologer, you tend to return to your astrologer to know what cycle Nyad and so I have so many beautiful Blessed beings who I work with, but I wanted to create something a little bit more far more like a little container, right so that there is a therapeutic process. So in 2024, I'm going to be offering and launching these three different packages where you can really walk with with with your chart and integrate it and do healing work around it and just basically follow the therapeutic process. And that brings in divination for some people breath work for some people really knowing more about their transits on any given day to really, you know, optimise how they're living. So it's going to be various things. So it's taking that experience of knowing the birth chart, and really entering into onto a healing journey with it. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's, it's just wonderful. It's a It's wonderful to it's like, because I'm also kind of a counselling or coaching astrologer. Right. So it's just wonderful to be able to use, you know, those modalities for people. Right, and they can really help right. Now is all the things do?
Alexandra Hughes 1:11:11
Yeah. Like to take it from conceptual. To practical.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:11:16
Yeah, absolutely. And, and from descriptive to prescriptive. Right. So that's also really important, like the what, how best to use this energy, which direction to go on what is the medicine you want to be, you know, embracing, as opposed to just this is what you are. So it was walking with it?
Alexandra Hughes 1:11:34
Yeah. I really appreciate that. I think it's kind of missing a lot of Yes,
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:11:40
yeah. And that was actually a big breakthrough that I had, because at first I was very disruptive. And it was one I encountered evolutionary astrology. That's when the lights went on. And I realised Okay, there we go. You know, that's, that's where we can really make this prescriptive.
Alexandra Hughes 1:11:57
Yeah. And healing like, how can we? How can we use our cosmic mirrors to help us heal this, this, this this during this earth walk? Right, or help help us to heal during this earth walk? Yeah. Okay, I have a question around. Why do you feel astrology is kind of making a comeback? Now? That's one question that I have. Yeah, let's leave it at that. I have another question. But I'm not going to compile them because
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:12:38
I can't transfer? Well, yeah, that's a good question. Because actually, astrologers are talking about that, too. We're like, what's going on here? You know, I think that I think that part of it is that it works. Soon as you that's the thing that I don't believe in astrology will have a reading. And then you say, then you tell me, right, because there's something about the experience of it and starting to explore it, that it just the lights get turned on. And then you, you know, your doors of perception have opened, right. And so now you know that there is something to this. And for so many people, you know, it's a rabbit hole, like they just want to know more and learn more, because it works. It speaks to them. It makes sense. And it relates, you know, so I think that that's part of it. And I think that again, part of the thing that's happening in our day and age with social media, of course it has its shadow, and it has its light and part of the lightest, I think it's just spreading information. And we're starting to see how many people are interested in it. And we're starting to like learn more and have access to learning more, so then we can work with it. So I think it's capturing the imagination of people, but in very practical ways, right? Because they see themselves on it. And that that feels like you said that like earlier that makes us feel like that, that we can relate, you know, to ourselves and to others. Yeah,
Alexandra Hughes 1:14:05
yeah. It reminds me of this walk. I went on with a friend. And she she asked me the question. I'm trying to place it in time. I think it was like maybe a year and a half ago. She asked me the question. She's like, so what helped you to like, really believe in astrology? Because I was I was always like, Oh, don't worry about that. It's because the moon is here or Oh, like, that's okay. You're a Scorpio. You know, like, I was like doing my pop astrology before. And she's like, how, why? How is it that you came to trust so fully in this? And I said, you know, it's so funny. Like, I can't speak to some kind of scientific proof, but I can tell you that it's just because it resonates like and it works. And I just, you know, for any city cynics out there like things that don't work don't last, you know 1000s of years years total and this lasts 1000s of years and even through the times when it was all about the science. Yeah, you know, even when it was like crushed down OSH Yeah, it's back and it will keep coming back because it's an ancient art or an ancient science that does work. It
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:15:27
does and you know, there's something to be said also of that age of Aquarius and that we know in astrology rules Aquarius, right or Aquarius rules astrology as a strong association. So yeah, maybe that's part of it. Right I think there's a lot to say about that Pluto moving into Aquarius more officially now. And and what that means for the collective and our way of really starting to see more and more outside the box and to operate on that level. And of course, AI as part of that, but also the more alternative and community, the the power of community and the collective experience. What Yeah, yeah,
Alexandra Hughes 1:16:05
yes. The Age of Aquarius. I've heard that. Yeah,
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:16:09
yeah. There's different different theories on when that began began or begins. But yeah, I think it's, I think it's not a hard and fast line. I think it's like, you know, we're just in the flow of that we're in transition
Alexandra Hughes 1:16:21
time. Yeah, but that's, that's another beautiful thing about astrology is how it really honours time. Like it's, it's not it's it's not static. And it's not like we're we live in a society where we want immediate gratification. Astrology, like nature, just takes her time. That's right. For everything, that's you know, transits take their time
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:16:53
they do. You can't rush you can't rush transit. You can't rush the crops. Yeah. You can't get Saturn off your back until Saturday is finished. It or Not are wise friend. Wise. Yeah.
Alexandra Hughes 1:17:15
Okay, okay. This is the last question. How do you define magic? It's an easy one.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:17:20
Oh, well, I really, I you know, I think I think magic is and the animating life force in action. I think magic isn't everything. I think it's an unnatural world, I think. I think it's just very vast. I think it's it's everything. I think it's just breathe, breathe through as I think it's in the air. Because in our breath, I think it's in the trees. I think it's in everything. And that's how I define it. I think it's our I think its intention. I think it's our consciousness and action. And I think that magic is love. That's because I truly believe everything is love. Right? So yeah, that's everything.
Alexandra Hughes 1:18:05
Thanks for that beautiful answer. Yeah, the animating life force in everything and that everything is love. Yeah. Okay. So where can people find you? And your magic?
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:18:21
Yeah, well, yeah, the easiest is of course, my website. So you can find my website 22 in two ways through astrologer eve.com or through my broader sort of title is inner temple healing https://www.innertemplehealingarts.com about So there's two ways to get to the same website. And yeah, and then from there, you can find my social media platforms and reach out to their book book or mine, see what I offer.
Alexandra Hughes 1:18:52
And we will have all of that in in the shownotes Evelyn so that people can find you. So I'm so curious about inner temple healing arts that is very appealing.
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:19:09
Yeah, yeah. Well, because I believe so much. Like we're all you know, the healing process is really about entering because, you know, ceremony elite really entering into our inner temple, right. And part of the medicine as a medicine woman that I, I have been practising as, there's so many different ways that we can do that. To heal ourselves to be on that journey, you know, and, and not to have it healed and done, you know, just but to have that feeling of like to being in process and with ourselves and meeting ourselves where we're at with some medicine.
Alexandra Hughes 1:19:44
Yeah, which is exactly what your readings offer. So, thank you so much for what you do, and you bring it to the world and you read on the podcast. Yeah, thank
Evelyn Mari Crete 1:19:56
you for offering this podcast to the world on the map. That's a gift, triple.
Alexandra Hughes 1:20:02
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